The usual group of photographers assembled with then Safety-Service Director Ryan Estell on October 1, 2011 to photograph the interior of the main building of the Car Barn on Pennsylvania Ave, in East Liverpool.
Plea made for East Liverpool to preserve car barn October 4, 2011 By JO ANN BOBBY-GILBERT - Staff Writer , Morning Journal News
EAST LIVERPOOL - City Council was urged Monday night to consider carefully the fate of the old car barn in East End that currently serves as the city's street and refuse/recycling headquarters.
Former council member Linda Ziegler addressed council about the building, having taken its possible restoration on as a project when she was on council several years ago.
At that time, Ziegler applied for a federal transportation enhancement grant that was ultimately denied, however, she told council she was advised at the time that the city should reapply because the project had ranked "very highly."
The city administration decided not to reapply for the grant, she said.
The grant for which Ziegler applied would have required the city to pay 20 percent of the renovation cost and also required inclusion of a small museum in the building.
Additionally, Ziegler said the Ohio Preservation Society advised the building may be eligible for inclusion on the National Register of Historic Places due to its history as a trolley car barn.
She urged council to seek input from the historical society prior to removing large doors as suggested by Service-Safety Director Ryan Estell last week, saying such changes could make the building ineligible for grants in the future.
It had been reported at a streets committee meeting last week by Estell that a decision must be made to either renovate or raze the structure, and he provided photographs of the building showing several problem areas, including a missing second floor.
"Eight years ago, I walked that second floor and it was sound. Since then, it's been exposed to rain, snow and weather," Ziegler said, adding to purposely allow the building to deteriorate "because deep-down you want to tear it down is disgraceful."
She said to "consider these things very carefully" when deciding what to do with the building.
Saying, "Things are different than Linda may remember," Estell said, nonetheless, he is not advocating either renovating or tearing down the structure, but did ask for a meeting of the committee as a whole to tour the car barn and see its condition.
"I can give you all the pictures I want but it won't be the same as seeing it for yourselves," Estell said, adding council needs to make a decision and he needs "a direction from here on out."
Councilman Ray Perorazio agreed, that council "needs to get something moving" in regard to the car barn.
It was agreed the committee as a whole will meet at 10 a.m. Saturday to tour the building, which will be considered a public meeting.
After the meeting, President of Council John Torma said those who care to join the committee on the tour will do so at their own risk and should dress appropriately for the tour. Some areas of the building are dark and damp, with the aforementioned missing second floor.
CAR BARN HEATHENS
Bill Tittle: My dad was born in 1915 and spent most of his child hood living at 303 Erie St. in the East End.He used to talk about a bunch of kids that ran around together sort of like the kids on the OUR GANG movies.This gang of kids were known as the Car Barn Heathens.About 15 years ago a few of them who were still living had a reunion at ,I think, was the American Legion. I was wondering if any of these guys are still living or are there any desendents of old gang out there.
Courtesy of Ghost Rails III Electriews By Wayne A. Cole (2007 pp. 244
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Courtesy of Ghost Rails III Electriews By Wayne A. Cole (2007 pp.246
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